I believe Boy Scouts are as American as Motherhood and Apple Pie. -- America as we have known it; Love it or leave it.
Do you remember when there was an incident involving Mr. Clinton and the Boy Scouts of America? It was not one of our Party's proudest moment.
I wish some Democrat in Washington would rant and rave in Zell Miller fashion about this recent action by the Pentagon during the Bush administration involving Boy Scouts.
I come from a family with strong ties to the Boy Scouts -- Eagles Scouts and the whole nine yards. The Pentagon's directing our military bases that they can no longer sponsor Boy Scout troops because Boy Scouts profess to believe in God is not what I consider promoting family values.
Here is an opportunity? Do we have a spokesman?
And one more thing, think twice before you fuss at me and assume that I am not familiar with something we attorneys call the establishment clause. I am, and also I am a Democrat, and my Party believes in values, family and otherwise, including the right of a military base to sponsor a Boy Scout troop.
This is America. Love it or leave it, and you know I am not leaving.
(11-15-04 AP story.)
I wish some Democrat in Washington would rant and rave in Zell Miller fashion about this recent action by the Pentagon during the Bush administration involving Boy Scouts.
I come from a family with strong ties to the Boy Scouts -- Eagles Scouts and the whole nine yards. The Pentagon's directing our military bases that they can no longer sponsor Boy Scout troops because Boy Scouts profess to believe in God is not what I consider promoting family values.
Here is an opportunity? Do we have a spokesman?
And one more thing, think twice before you fuss at me and assume that I am not familiar with something we attorneys call the establishment clause. I am, and also I am a Democrat, and my Party believes in values, family and otherwise, including the right of a military base to sponsor a Boy Scout troop.
This is America. Love it or leave it, and you know I am not leaving.
(11-15-04 AP story.)
posted by Sid Cottingham | 6:40 AM
3 Comments:
I wonder if it is possible to breach this divide ?
DOes it make any difference to you that my two sons were not allowed to join the scouts (one kicked out, the other didn't try) because they couldn't swear to the Boy Scouts' "God" ?
All anyone has ever asked of the scouts is that they not discriminate.
They adamantly refuse, and are proud of their discrimination - how is this a value that the government should encourage ?
tiponeill@excite.com
I think we might.
I have three lovely daughters, and although I contribute to the Boy Scouts annually, I have been removed from the situation for a long time.
I grew up in a family with 4 boys and two girls. All of the boys were scouts, our Dad having been an eagle. Scouts was part of our life.
In scouts I learned to always leave something better than I found it, whether it is a camping spot or someone's office that I have borrowed for a few minutes.
I can still recite the Scout Law (a scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent.
Likewise with the Scout Oath that says:
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.
The Scout Motto of Be Prepared; and the Scout Slogan of Do a Good Turn Daily.
What I didn't learn or do not recall was trying to ever keep anyone out for any reason. After you email, I went and googled Boy Scouts of America discrimination. It appears that this continues to be a hot area, something that I thought died down with the case several years ago concerning the sexual preferances of a scout leader.
To answer your quetion, yes I do think it would make a difference. Had I taken a friend from Japan with me to the scouts, we would have signed him up and been proud to have another member in our patrol and troop.
Yes, it would make a difference, and I have not walked a mile in your shoes. And it would most definitely make a difference if this has become a cause celebre with the organization rather than the matters that I recited above with many plesant memories.
I think we might.
I have three lovely daughters, and although I contribute to the Boy Scouts annually, I have been removed from the situation for a long time.
I grew up in a family with 4 boys and two girls. All of the boys were scouts, our Dad having been an eagle. Scouts was part of our life.
In scouts I learned to always leave something better than I found it, whether it is a camping spot or someone's office that I have borrowed for a few minutes.
I can still recite the Scout Law (a scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent.
Likewise with the Scout Oath that says:
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.
The Scout Motto of Be Prepared; and the Scout Slogan of Do a Good Turn Daily.
What I didn't learn or do not recall was trying to ever keep anyone out for any reason. After you email, I went and googled Boy Scouts of America discrimination. It appears that this continues to be a hot area, something that I thought died down with the case several years ago concerning the sexual preferances of a scout leader.
To answer your question, yes I do think it would make a difference. Had I taken a friend from Japan with me to the scouts, we would have signed him up and been proud to have another member in our patrol and troop.
Yes, it would make a difference, and I have not walked a mile in your shoes. And it would most definitely make a difference if this has become a cause celebre with the organization rather than the matters that I recited above with many plesant memories.
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